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Tweet Topic Started: Jan 18 2012, 02:43 PM (1,189 Views)
Meowth	Jan 18 2012, 05:51 PM Post #16
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	wolffanghameha Jan 18 2012, 05:25 PM Frankly I think there are other equally important laws being passed/going through Congress kinda annoying how this gets focused on, probably because people want to keep downloading stuff illegally. If only it was just about preventing people from downloading things illegally. But what it does is give powers to people who will abuse them. It would give the power for sites to be blocked because it had a user link to something illegal, which can already be delt with using DMCA but many media companies lobbying the US government don't feel this goes far enough, they want to be able to take things down that can currently be used under fair use. It's dangerous legislation that will hurt the internet.



~~Paikuan extreme~~	Jan 18 2012, 06:18 PM Post #17
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	Yeah, playing the pyschic police for prevention is no better than the tom cruise movie, SOMEONE is gonna find a way to circumvent this system and abuse it, but considering thats the point? we can NOT let this move forward. Obama was very supportive of taking down pirate sites, exactly WHEN did he change his mind? when he realized it could affect HIM TOO?



* Bex	Jan 18 2012, 06:23 PM Post #18
★ Bextreme Dream ★ Posts: 9,435 Group: Retired Staff Member #1,545 Joined: July 5, 2006 Gender Female Country United Kingdom What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Well to be fair, piracy that funds criminal activity is obviously bad, so of course Obama and a lot of others will support anti-piracy, but the way to tackle piracy isn't by passing huge sweeping laws that can damage the internet as a whole. The fact of the matter is, pirates will always keep coming back and finding a way around the things set in place to stop them. Some pirates are just as innovative and clever as the people that stop them, and so accepting SOPA and PIPA is just a stupid idea because it's completely unecessary to cripple the internet in the hope they'll catch a few pirates and save a business.
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~~Paikuan extreme~~	Jan 18 2012, 06:41 PM Post #19
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	^^^ truth....



ryanson209	Jan 18 2012, 08:33 PM Post #20
MAGICAL GIRLS REPRESENT Posts: 2,336 Group: Member Member #4,331 Joined: July 21, 2009 Favourite Anime Puella Magi Madoka Magica	I know of SOPA. What's PIPA?
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Meowth	Jan 18 2012, 08:42 PM Post #21
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	PIPA is the Protect IP Act http://www.1stwebdesigner.com/design/how-sopa-pipa-can-affect-you/



Optimus Banana	Jan 18 2012, 08:50 PM Post #22
Posts: 837 Group: Member Member #5,898 Joined: March 25, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	Steve Jan 18 2012, 02:45 PM Do you think it will accomplish anything? I have a feeling it probably won't. It is kinda annoying though noticed about 20 minutes ago tried to look at something on wikipedia >.> Sopa is just stupid, plain and simple. Turn off Java Script and it should let you on.
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Jan 18 2012, 09:24 PM Post #23
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	I'm not a SOPA supporter, but I do think that internet piracy should be stopped. Just not in the way that SOPA promotes.



Jamason	Jan 19 2012, 03:00 AM Post #24
SSj3 Goten Posts: 300 Group: Member Member #7,017 Joined: November 26, 2011	This is probably getting passed mainly because the gov wants a share.. They already have control over television and the rasio. Now they might be thinking.. Time to get the internet now... But also to stop internet piracy because of loss in money for the origional creator.. I can see internet piracy as a bad thing but there has to be other alternatives..



Seruphim	Jan 19 2012, 03:03 AM Post #25
Cell's Angel Posts: 3,242 Group: Goddess Member #867 Joined: November 15, 2005 Country United States Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome	I've heard some game developers talking about SOPA and they say the way to stop piracy is to provide better service. Like Pandora and Spotify. Both free ways of getting music. Or like Steam, an easier way of getting video games. I'm sure even netflix and gamefly help. In other words, they see it as service problem, not something the government needs to step in on.



~~Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs~~	Jan 19 2012, 03:26 AM Post #26
Posts: 2,687 Group: GTFO Member #6,954 Joined: November 6, 2011	I'm fairly certain that if SOPA and PIPA get passed, there will be riots. I'm not joking, everyone would go nuts, especially, yes, especially, anonymous. If SOPA and PIPA are passed, the general public and anonymous people of the internet would destroy it.



Jamason	Jan 19 2012, 03:40 AM Post #27
SSj3 Goten Posts: 300 Group: Member Member #7,017 Joined: November 26, 2011	^ for real.. Not much good is gunna come from the public if this thing gets passed.



* Bex	Jan 19 2012, 10:57 AM Post #28
★ Bextreme Dream ★ Posts: 9,435 Group: Retired Staff Member #1,545 Joined: July 5, 2006 Gender Female Country United Kingdom What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Jamason Jan 19 2012, 03:00 AM This is probably getting passed mainly because the gov wants a share.. They already have control over television and the rasio. Now they might be thinking.. Time to get the internet now... But also to stop internet piracy because of loss in money for the origional creator.. I can see internet piracy as a bad thing but there has to be other alternatives.. The thing is getting free stuff from the internet can benefit the industry. For example, if I told you I liked the band Bloc Party and you had never heard of them, so you went away and downloaded a few of their songs, or listened to the songs on YouTube or whatever, you might like that and then go to a service like the ones Seruphim just mentioned, and download an album of theirs off of iTunes. That's one of the things that iTunes gets right. They offer you free things every now and again so you get a taste for something and then you can decide whether you want more, kind of like a bottle of wine. Same with game demos on Steam or even on disks you get free with magazines. But if the record companies have their way, you're basically going into a store to buy a CD that you won't have heard anything from. If it's not on the radio you wouldn't have a clue and you could end up hating the CD and wasting money, so it's really just a huge scam. They just want you to lose your money so that they can make more and are disguising that fact by saying it's "protecting businesses" when I don't really feel like those businesses are exactly lacking in the profit department. The entertainment industry is so big they don't need these stupid laws, it's not like everybody is gonna stop listening to music, watching films/TV and playing games overnight, in fact people do that stuff more now than they ever did. Obviously piracy is bad, and nobody would want piracy to end up funding organised crime or anything, but laws like this aren't the way to tackle it. It doesn't allow people to share anything they like just because of how broad copyright law extends. If any games, tv, music or just any digital entertainment company wishes to reduce piracy, just make a better service than the pirates. Make something like Steam where people can log in, browse the site, read a few reviews, see screenshots, see videos, check the community associated with said game, and then buy the game for a reduced, sale price every now and again. If you have one game that costs £30 and you charge only £15 for it, people are gonna go get that game, and by the time 3 people have bought it, you've profited £15 and sold 3 copies, when at the original price you'd have only sold one copy and the customers would be happy not having to spend an absolute fortune because they got some games for less too. Do the maths, understand why not everybody goes to a legitimate source for their entertainment and then come back with something that suits what they want. Companies might actually benefit from it then.
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